trump quote on obamacare

>>elizabeth warren was speakingat a meeting of rich democratic donors, which is scary to hear,but the way it worked out is actually quite positive andgives us an idea of what her strategy going forward might benow that she has been in a very real sense unleashed, unchained,and can speak freely about whatever she wants. the firsttopic we will cover are her views on obamacare, she prefacedthese comments by saying she can defend the law better than mostanyone, citing the ways it

has helped the country, but shesaid -- >>which sounds very much likewhat bernie sanders was saying during the primary, talkingabout what was necessary to finally make sure that everyonehas health insurance and higher-quality insurance thanthey get under obamacare right now. >>i thought you were going tosay it sounds like what i say. i think i might have literallysaid that in a video yesterday.

>>about loaves? >>right. that's why we like her,because we are like-minded. and you are right. they played forhalf a loaf strategy, and since they never made the case in away that rally the american people to be excited by it, thentrump was allowed to come in and win and all of a sudden at bestwe are down to one quarter of a

loaf. so what she is saying, youwill see it in the next quote even more, you've got to win onthe ideology, convince americans that not just, hey, icompromised with republicans and i made a deal and it's not sobad -- no, we are right, you should want the whole loaf, youshould push for. >>they are scared to run onideas that polling shows is popular. it would be like beingscared to sell a loaf of bread.

we love carbs in america. theyare generally scared to push for this stuff, thankfully notelizabeth warren. one of the donors at the meetingsaid -- >>we have some ideas of otherthings she brought up during that speech -- >>we of course have pointed that out as well -- >>i would add, not quick enoughto point out how their economic

agenda could potentially benefitthe working class. >>this is a case where theaggressive progressives had a point. guys like jimmy dore andsteve oh who argued that if trump wins at least we will haveone upside, not to say that's a good thing, but the upside willbe it will rally progressives to go in that direction andliberate them from having to say, well, hillary clinton iskind of right, and i suppose we should go for another one thirdof a loaf --

>>i don't agree, i think sheobviously wanted hillary clinton to win and she would have beenfreed up with hillary clinton won. >>i totally disagree. >>we have the office, she isable to disagree without the fear of the office going to afascist. >>we had that with obama, wherewere they? >>i would argue elizabeth warrenwas often pushing for the right thing.

>>not to this degree. the reasoni like her is that she was a rare person along with berniesanders who would every once in a while go, i think we shouldtry being progressive. the president isn't doing it quiteenough, i love the president but -- that's the best you got. andwe were like, i think she's actually a progressive. now sheis saying we screwed up, we

should have been progressive. ifhillary clinton is president, no way elizabeth warren gives thisspeech. >>i don't agree. >>hillary clinton will sayincremental change is good -- >>elizabeth warren gave somespeeches a few weeks ago pushing hillary clinton to be moreprogressive on some of these issues, that was before theelection. >>she had eight years to sayobamacare wasn't nearly enough,

instead of now going no, we didit wrong. >>that sucks because we areapparently about to lose it. >>this is how we regain it, withpeople who go enough with the compromises and corporatiststelling us how great wall street is and how we shouldn'tprosecute them. attorney general eric holder came out and saidthey were too big to jail. if he was a republican elizabethwarren would have ripped his

face off, he was a democrat soshe was like, i respectfully disagree, eric. now she isgoing, i can't wait to rip your face off. she said this is wherewe failed, not our messaging but our ideology. so not if we hadrun the right ads in wisconsin or michigan -- no, your ideologyof protecting the bankers was wrong, your ideology ofprotecting corporations is

wrong, the american people wantthe opposite. >>i would argue she hasdelivered that message before. >>again, we are arguing aboutdegrees, but they are important degrees. >>i will say is a more generalthing, if trump the coming president has a nice side effectof inspiring progressives more, that is great and i will takeit. but the idea that that will in any way make up for thetsunami of damage that is about

to be done to progressivepriorities, and the long-term damage that might result fromthe supreme court coming more conservative for anothergeneration, it is ridiculous to suggest that is an argumentanyone should make. >>that's why i made thecounterargument before the election. but what you arebringing up is important -- but i don't want people beingeveryone lives in a binary world.

no, donald trump is adisaster, that doesn't mean you can't find one upside. people are like, you wanted himto win all along. >>i will find upsides in a yearor two. >>always hillary clintonstaffers talked about how they were looking forward to theirgilded future -- >>did they use that word? >>the hill described themtalking in that way. and there was unbearable quote afterunbearable quote.

those guys are wedded to the system, they werenever going to give you a full they were going to givethe loaf to the donors. the fact that those guys are going to becleaned out is a great thing, that does mean trump should havewon. no, trump will do untold damage. >>we agree.

>>but there are two silverlinings in a dark cloud, i need you to think in a non-binaryway. >>that is what i was pushing foron election night when we were deciphering what caused theelection to go the way it was. non-binary thinking. >>bernie sanders and elizabethwarren are on the warpath, that is fantastic news, let's jointhem and fight for a real progressive ideology.